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xrevan86: @navigium Somehow I doubt that. What I think is that systemd is...

@navigium Somehow I doubt that. What I think is that systemd is very overrated. You don't need a red diploma to use systemd.

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mcscx: @gryps I don't think I will convert existing servers from Debian to...

@gryps I don't think I will convert existing servers from Debian to another distro. I can keep them at Wheezy for a long time.

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mcscx: Good blog post "Avoiding #systemd isn't hard" !debian RD @aqeeliz...

Good blog post "Avoiding #systemd isn't hard" !debian RD @aqeelizhttp://qttr.at/f6j

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navigium: @xrevan86 we'll see. For now I'm able to ditch systemd. I guess...

@xrevan86 we'll see. For now I'm able to ditch systemd. I guess I'll figure out how it works as soon as there is no way around it.

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mcscx: @gryps I will have a look at ArchBang. Defaults don't matter if I can...

@gryps I will have a look at ArchBang. Defaults don't matter if I can install my favourite #fvwm window manager :-)

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jonkulp: @navigium @xrevan86 I think all of us have the "if it ain't broke...

@navigium @xrevan86 I think all of us have the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality about certain things. but embrace change in other things. I generally don't embrace a lot of changes in my...

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navigium: Great article! Thank you!

Great article! Thank you!

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mcscx: @zoowar at least disturbing to see almost all distros being...

@zoowar at least disturbing to see almost all distros being infiltrated by that controversial software. I suspect #conspiracy behind that

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gomerx: I prefer a script I can edit, or look at to see what settings are...

I prefer a script I can edit, or look at to see what settings are being used. init scripts have always worked well for me.

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mcscx: @gomerx +1 I have shown init to windows users& everybody confirmed...

@gomerx +1 I have shown init to windows users& everybody confirmed #init is awesome. It's like "mechanic",you can "watch the wheels" turning

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mbjunior: @navigium You don't need to switch just because EOL.

@navigium You don't need to switch just because EOL.

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gomerx: That seems to be one of the reasons Unix spread so far so quickly. It...

That seems to be one of the reasons Unix spread so far so quickly. It is easy to understand and modify.

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navigium: @mbjunior but I depend on security updates.

@mbjunior but I depend on security updates.

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mbjunior: @navigium You don't, if administering OS in a proper manner. Most...

@navigium You don't, if administering OS in a proper manner. Most vulns and bugs are context-dependent.

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navigium: @mbjunior but keeping software up to date helps avoiding...

@mbjunior but keeping software up to date helps avoiding vulnerabilities, especially if administering these servers isn't your main job.

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mbjunior: @navigium That's the mentality Redmond has spread, not necessarily...

@navigium That's the mentality Redmond has spread, not necessarily the truth. It rarely is, as a matter of fact. Even "security" updates can potentially create new problems, despite protecting you from...

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rozzin: @gomerx, I fear that world in which Unix `spread so far so quickly'...

@gomerx, I fear that world in which Unix `spread so far so quickly' was different—and smaller.

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gomerx: The internet makes the world very small. These people where sharing...

The internet makes the world very small. These people where sharing code by shipping magnetic tapes.

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rozzin: @gomerx, the Internet brings the world *closer*. It doesn't decrease...

@gomerx, the Internet brings the world *closer*. It doesn't decrease the number of people in it or lessen the diversity.

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rozzin: @gomerx, I guess I mean `smaller' more in the `small town vs. big...

@gomerx, I guess I mean `smaller' more in the `small town vs. big city' sense, not in the `Alaska is the biggest state in the union' sense.

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